Ok. here are my questions
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/chogall/tidez/simple (my armory just incase any one wants to see it to better answer my questions)
1. My hp is 115k at 85 with that loot, gems, and enchants unbuffed. People have been ragging on me every now and then that my gear sucks or my HP is too low, or some stupid crap. Is my gear wrong, or is there anything that I can change to fix my HP?
2. Does any one know the best sockets and what not? I've been going for Dodge and parry (and i hear you can get parry through str, so I enchanted that on my gaunts.) am I wrong?
well your hp at 115k is a bit low for heroic tanks for dks but I would really consider trying to get a replacement for that weapon there is a nice quest one from deepholm if I recall.
Make sure you look at rep vendors, there is a lot of nice gear on them even just for honoured. If I'm in my tank gear check the items for the rep ones.
Should really be gemming and enchanting for as much stamina as you can and make sure you use at least the Cata green gems, they shouldn't be expensive. Perfect Solid Zephyrites are ideal being +53 Stam and a lot of JC get them from their daily and aren't useful for it. Use Mastery/Stam for meta and if you want to match a yellow.
It looks like your weapon has no runeforge on it get Stoneskin Gargoyle on it.
115k HP is low for a tank for Heroics. DPS normally have 100-115k. Make sure you're gemming for stamina or stamina hybrid gems. Make sure you have your weapons with Stoneskin on it.
Use Tank gear and trinket, not DPS.
I assume that the weapon you have equiped is new because it is not enchanted. If these are dungeons and they are complaining that you are "squishy" it might be more of a CD popping problem. I have about 12 tanking CDs (with engineering for 1 or 2). Use them whenever possible on trash and time them correctly for the most effectiveness on bosses. Don't worry about them being down on trash pulls; they will be back in a minute or 2.
Saturday, April 21, 2012
Unholy Dps on PTR?
Hey guys...ive been working on leveling my DK to dps at 85 as unholy and looking at some of the PTR patch notes im a little worried, so can anyone whos playing on the PTR tell me if your dps has gone down by much or is it pretty marginal?
I haven't tested in a current content raid setting, but on a tank n spank fight (i.e. Argaloth) you can expect a 500-1k dps increase.
With the changes to mastery and the way it interacts with Scourge Strike and our diseases/DnD, the 'nerfs' to our strength and strike damage were offset completely.
Adding the new Runic Corruption uptime buff, the damage that our actual 'toon' puts out has been increased by a noticeable amount.
I say 'toon' because the main nerfs were to our ghoul. Our ghoul was 30-40% of our dps that was able to completely ignore most raid mechanics, which was our main advantage over other dps classes.
So in short: our personal damage capabilities have gone up, but we are now more affected by fight mechanics, bringing us more in line with other specs and classes, which is completely reasonable and I think blizz did a great job re-balancing Unholy as a dps spec.
Alright awsome :) ive always loved unholy so im glad.
I haven't tested in a current content raid setting, but on a tank n spank fight (i.e. Argaloth) you can expect a 500-1k dps increase.
With the changes to mastery and the way it interacts with Scourge Strike and our diseases/DnD, the 'nerfs' to our strength and strike damage were offset completely.
Adding the new Runic Corruption uptime buff, the damage that our actual 'toon' puts out has been increased by a noticeable amount.
I say 'toon' because the main nerfs were to our ghoul. Our ghoul was 30-40% of our dps that was able to completely ignore most raid mechanics, which was our main advantage over other dps classes.
So in short: our personal damage capabilities have gone up, but we are now more affected by fight mechanics, bringing us more in line with other specs and classes, which is completely reasonable and I think blizz did a great job re-balancing Unholy as a dps spec.
Alright awsome :) ive always loved unholy so im glad.
Mastery for Unholy - Not to shabby
Ran a couple of 5 mil dmg + parses on the test dummies.
First was my normal forge with crit > mastery.
2nd parse was reforging all crit to mastery (saving haste reforges).
Noticed more dps.
My gear is already flooded with Mastery due to going unholy from DW frost. This patch however did upgrade my current mastery filled gear.
Sorry for lack of SS's btw.
oranges.
why would u have ever reforged to crit in unholy...
Maybe I misread that, but it seems that he did not reforge to crit, but from it.
Mastery was horrible with blightcaller.
I am not looking at my gear right now, however If a piece had Mastery and Haste on it, i would of forged the mastery to crit.
I left the pieces with Crit/Haste alone unless of course I needed hit.
After reforging, took anything that had Crit and turned it to mastery (if it has haste on it already)
why did you reforge the mastery on your weapon rather than expertise?
i reforged the expertise
Armory will not show that since I did not do that till after a bit of UI fussing.
First was my normal forge with crit > mastery.
2nd parse was reforging all crit to mastery (saving haste reforges).
Noticed more dps.
My gear is already flooded with Mastery due to going unholy from DW frost. This patch however did upgrade my current mastery filled gear.
Sorry for lack of SS's btw.
oranges.
why would u have ever reforged to crit in unholy...
Maybe I misread that, but it seems that he did not reforge to crit, but from it.
Mastery was horrible with blightcaller.
I am not looking at my gear right now, however If a piece had Mastery and Haste on it, i would of forged the mastery to crit.
I left the pieces with Crit/Haste alone unless of course I needed hit.
After reforging, took anything that had Crit and turned it to mastery (if it has haste on it already)
why did you reforge the mastery on your weapon rather than expertise?
i reforged the expertise
Armory will not show that since I did not do that till after a bit of UI fussing.
DKs and Warglaives Confirmation
This is my first post on the forums. I'm an avid reader, but have never truly found a need to create a thread or post my opinion, that is until now, I have been reading rumors all over the forums and on random fansites concerning Death Knights using the Warglaives of Azzinoth. Nowhere however have I been able to find actual confirmation of this from Blizzard. If this is an actual change could someone please toss a link the the blue post on forums regarding it and give information on when this change will go live. I know if confirmation can be found there will be many very excited Death Knights everywhere, thanks.
no blue posts, but there are supposed ss's of the tooltip from beta. They were changed to swords and dk's were added to the classes that can use them. Do a search in the old forums for warglavies.
Yeah, I searched for em and found alot of info about it, but nothing that was official. It was just a bunch of warriors and rogues saying it'll never happen and others saying it will. :(
Any information yall have about DKs using the glaives would be useful.
Confirmed. Rejoice!
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8978/captureum.png
I don't see how that is a confirmation. Could easily be done on a private server or just overall faked. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't just saying its not very good proof.
Thanks Kraylis.
Odd Paladins weren't added as well... HAHAHAHAHA
Awesome! Time to start farming on my DK :D
This matters because?....
Because, even though they're old items, there is still something romantic about having the Warglaives.
http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/4861/we-are-legendary/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/5009/a-legendary-collection/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/5010/the-ultimate-collection/
Dude, what do I have to do for you?
Paladins can't dual wield =3
They can still equip 1H Swords though, so they'd at least be eligible for 1. :P
You don't have to do anything. If they are there they are there. Doesn't matter either way.
http://cata.wowhead.com/item=32838
Awesome-sauce. Time to get 5 locks at the second to last boss for farming.
After looking into this further I'm still not sure Death Knights can use them, a Blue post on this subject is nonexistent and needs to surface soon. If it doesn't we're gonna have a lot of DKs sitting around with Glaives they can't use.
Put "Vaelryn is teh s3xorz in chat. That would be the only way we know you aren't on a private server. Totally.
If it's in the beta then I don't see what other proof you need. It would be pretty redundant of them to make the change to allow a class to use it only to change it back for a live release.
sweeet
teh change may make our ap 9000!!
srsly though you know they had tanking 2h's for us in the wolk beta right? true case of
CATA WILL FIX IT!! one way or the other
Not to necro a thread..but necro away!
Nah, felt like seeing if any fellow DKs have gotten one or both of the warglaives and didn't feel like it deserved a new thread.
no blue posts, but there are supposed ss's of the tooltip from beta. They were changed to swords and dk's were added to the classes that can use them. Do a search in the old forums for warglavies.
Yeah, I searched for em and found alot of info about it, but nothing that was official. It was just a bunch of warriors and rogues saying it'll never happen and others saying it will. :(
Any information yall have about DKs using the glaives would be useful.
Confirmed. Rejoice!
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8978/captureum.png
I don't see how that is a confirmation. Could easily be done on a private server or just overall faked. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't just saying its not very good proof.
Thanks Kraylis.
Odd Paladins weren't added as well... HAHAHAHAHA
Awesome! Time to start farming on my DK :D
This matters because?....
This matters because?....
Because, even though they're old items, there is still something romantic about having the Warglaives.
This matters because?....
http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/4861/we-are-legendary/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/5009/a-legendary-collection/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/5010/the-ultimate-collection/
I don't see how that is a confirmation. Could easily be done on a private server or just overall faked. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't just saying its not very good proof.
Dude, what do I have to do for you?
Thanks Kraylis.
Odd Paladins weren't added as well... HAHAHAHAHA
Paladins can't dual wield =3
I don't see how that is a confirmation. Could easily be done on a private server or just overall faked. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't just saying its not very good proof.
Dude, what do I have to do for you?Thanks Kraylis.
Odd Paladins weren't added as well... HAHAHAHAHA
Paladins can't dual wield =3
They can still equip 1H Swords though, so they'd at least be eligible for 1. :P
You don't have to do anything. If they are there they are there. Doesn't matter either way.
I don't see how that is a confirmation. Could easily be done on a private server or just overall faked. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't just saying its not very good proof.
http://cata.wowhead.com/item=32838
Awesome-sauce. Time to get 5 locks at the second to last boss for farming.
After looking into this further I'm still not sure Death Knights can use them, a Blue post on this subject is nonexistent and needs to surface soon. If it doesn't we're gonna have a lot of DKs sitting around with Glaives they can't use.
I don't see how that is a confirmation. Could easily be done on a private server or just overall faked. Not that I'm saying it is or isn't just saying its not very good proof.
Dude, what do I have to do for you?
Put "Vaelryn is teh s3xorz in chat. That would be the only way we know you aren't on a private server. Totally.
After looking into this further I'm still not sure Death Knights can use them, a Blue post on this subject is nonexistent and needs to surface soon. If it doesn't we're gonna have a lot of DKs sitting around with Glaives they can't use.
If it's in the beta then I don't see what other proof you need. It would be pretty redundant of them to make the change to allow a class to use it only to change it back for a live release.
sweeet
After looking into this further I'm still not sure Death Knights can use them, a Blue post on this subject is nonexistent and needs to surface soon. If it doesn't we're gonna have a lot of DKs sitting around with Glaives they can't use.
If it's in the beta then I don't see what other proof you need. It would be pretty redundant of them to make the change to allow a class to use it only to change it back for a live release.
teh change may make our ap 9000!!
srsly though you know they had tanking 2h's for us in the wolk beta right? true case of
CATA WILL FIX IT!! one way or the other
Not to necro a thread..but necro away!
Nah, felt like seeing if any fellow DKs have gotten one or both of the warglaives and didn't feel like it deserved a new thread.
DK tanking avoidance
Hi Guys,
I'm curious about DK tanking avoidance, Right now my blood spec have about 20% avoidance, having played a warrior tank for a long time I feel this is very low.
I know that the core mechanics of blood is the self heals and the blood shield, but what is the ideal avoidance for a DK tank?
Thanks
Onewingangel Jubei'Thos
In WotLK I was at around 38% or something, I don't quite remember. With Horn of Winter I'm at 23% now, it'll go up as better gear comes. It's just part of the re-gearing up.
Yeah I thinking it should be around 40% or so at least, because my 80 prot war had about 70% avoidance including block in JP gear. Any 85 prot war or bears can share their avoidance so that we can get a broad view on how avoidance is in cata?
oh yeah forgot prot pallies as well =P
From what I've seen the other classes have roughly the same amount. I have 25% in 349 average item level but that's mostly because it's all being reforged into other stats.
So at this stage of cata avoidance stats doesn't play a major role in tanking gear any more? And it seems that Blizz is focusing all the stats on gear to mastery... Any raiding tanks that can provide some of their thoughts on this? Are you taking more damage then you would like or it works out better then just having pure avoidance stats on gear?
The ideal avoidance is where you reforge it all into Mastery.
I think my avoidance is like ~20-22% dodge/parry. Remember whatever you had prior to the expansion takes a dive into the toilet when DR's kick in, and DRs are brutal this time around.
But yeah, Mastery hooooooooooooooooooo.
I'm curious about DK tanking avoidance, Right now my blood spec have about 20% avoidance, having played a warrior tank for a long time I feel this is very low.
I know that the core mechanics of blood is the self heals and the blood shield, but what is the ideal avoidance for a DK tank?
Thanks
Onewingangel Jubei'Thos
In WotLK I was at around 38% or something, I don't quite remember. With Horn of Winter I'm at 23% now, it'll go up as better gear comes. It's just part of the re-gearing up.
Yeah I thinking it should be around 40% or so at least, because my 80 prot war had about 70% avoidance including block in JP gear. Any 85 prot war or bears can share their avoidance so that we can get a broad view on how avoidance is in cata?
oh yeah forgot prot pallies as well =P
From what I've seen the other classes have roughly the same amount. I have 25% in 349 average item level but that's mostly because it's all being reforged into other stats.
So at this stage of cata avoidance stats doesn't play a major role in tanking gear any more? And it seems that Blizz is focusing all the stats on gear to mastery... Any raiding tanks that can provide some of their thoughts on this? Are you taking more damage then you would like or it works out better then just having pure avoidance stats on gear?
The ideal avoidance is where you reforge it all into Mastery.
I think my avoidance is like ~20-22% dodge/parry. Remember whatever you had prior to the expansion takes a dive into the toilet when DR's kick in, and DRs are brutal this time around.
But yeah, Mastery hooooooooooooooooooo.
Spec Questions...
I'm about to respec, and I was wondering about 2 specs. I love Dual Weild, I just don't have the hit for it at the moment, but! what is this I hear about DW Unholy? And secondly, what is a really great PvP spec?
Let me get this straight. You have enough hit for 2h, but not dual wield?
Yeah, I still have like an 8% chance to miss when using DW.
You don't go for total hit cap when dual wielding. You go only high enough to make sure your specials hit. In Wrath that was 5% hit. I can only imagine it is the same now.
DW Unholy is currently higher DPS for raid content according to EJ, but I bet it will get nerfed before long. Blizz has stated that DW will only be viable in the Frost tree so don't hold your breath for DW Unholy staying.
As for PvP, I run blood for survivability. However, I rarely PvP so I am not one to actually give advice on that.
Let me get this straight. You have enough hit for 2h, but not dual wield?
Yeah, I still have like an 8% chance to miss when using DW.
You don't go for total hit cap when dual wielding. You go only high enough to make sure your specials hit. In Wrath that was 5% hit. I can only imagine it is the same now.
DW Unholy is currently higher DPS for raid content according to EJ, but I bet it will get nerfed before long. Blizz has stated that DW will only be viable in the Frost tree so don't hold your breath for DW Unholy staying.
As for PvP, I run blood for survivability. However, I rarely PvP so I am not one to actually give advice on that.
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